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Post by JeremyZobel on Oct 11, 2007 9:15:46 GMT -5
alexc - check your pm
Also, I am working on getting a formal written response from the DOT regarding the situation. It is easier to prove them wrong once they have issued a written statement.
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Post by Nick Pionessa on Oct 11, 2007 17:07:22 GMT -5
Jeremy- great work on this whole debacle, keep us posted and thank you for your efforts.
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Post by Nick Pionessa on Oct 11, 2007 22:24:21 GMT -5
these images were taken on tuesday 10-9-07 first is obviously at the dam which is above the slide. the second is a couple of miles downstream form the slide. anyone notice a difference in clarity? this was at right around 110 cfs. about half of normal flow for this time of year.
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Post by smoltguy74 on Oct 12, 2007 9:23:47 GMT -5
It looks like the Catts clarity will be a hit or miss type thing. I snooped around yesterday and took the following picture off Hammond Hill around 5pm. It looked pretty good. A little more color than up at the dam, but in my mind it was the classic fall "clay" color the creek holds on to normally. Actually, upstream of the bridge, there were a couple nests that looked like they were from last spring and didn't get filled in. Guess it shows how low the water has been all summer. Oh, I just noticed, don't pay attention to the dates on the pics, the batteries totally died last week and I didn't bother resetting everything on the camera. Sorry about that.
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Post by Nick Pionessa on Oct 14, 2007 23:14:59 GMT -5
from the Buffalo News
Unstable soil forces redesign of Route 219 overpass No estimates yet on cost of change By John F. BonfattiNEWS STAFF REPORTER
A landslide 10,000 years ago will cause the state Department of Transportation to reconfigure its plans for the Route 219 expressway extension into Cattaraugus County.
Exactly what the state hopes to do — and what the added cost to the $85.7 million project will be — remains unknown.
“Most likely it’s going to add money to the project,” said DOT spokeswoman Susan Surdej. “How much, we don’t know.”
Construction crews encountered the problem as they were piling 150,000 cubic yards of earth into embankments that would be the foundations for two bridges carrying the northbound and southbound lanes of the extension over Scoby Hill Road in Concord.
“We started experiencing some unstable soil conditions,” Surdej said, explaining that, at its most evident point, the earth was sliding an inch a day.
Consultants from an Oregon company were called in, and Surdej said they concluded there had been a landslide about 10,000 years ago in the area of the bridge construction, and that loading the new fill on top of it had reactivated those conditions.
“As a result of this, we are now faced with redesigning that section,” she said. “We know now that due to these unstable soil conditions, we cannot build the raised section we originally designed.”
Removing the earth that was piled up for the embankments will cost a little more than $1 million, Surdej said. The earth itself will be used somewhere else in the project, which involves building 3.5 miles of new highway.
Engineers are considering a number of options to deal with the problem.
One would take Scoby Hill Road over the highway. Another would put Scoby Hill under the highway.
Yet another would involve dead-ending Scoby Hill somewhere between the existing Route 219 roadway and the new highway, and building an access road from Zoar Valley Road to get to the section of the road that would be cut off by the highway.
Until an option is chosen, Surdej said the DOT won’t have a firm grip on how much the alterations will cost.
“Fortunately, the job is large enough that work continues on the north and south ends [of the highway] and on the bridges over Cattaraugus Creek,” she said.
“Right now, it has not impacted our schedule because there’s so much else going on and being built,” she said. The extension is scheduled for completion by 2009.
jbonfatti@buffnews.com
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Post by tomgribble on Oct 15, 2007 6:07:05 GMT -5
Well you guys need to bring the Army Corps of Engineers in on this, and they are the governing body up there!
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