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Post by patgreen on Jan 20, 2011 16:12:59 GMT -5
Well, here I go. I'm just beginning and I don't have a great vise or tools, but I'm learning. Here's my first attempt at the family Mysidae. It's a size 18 nymph hook with white deer hair and some crystal dubbing for the body with white 8/0 thread. Honest critique please, and maybe some recommendations for easy flies for me to work on next.
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Post by Tony Medina on Jan 20, 2011 16:22:35 GMT -5
Looks like a nice simple good looking fly.
Only thing I would add to it would be some sort of contrasting color to give it some further depth.
But who knows maybe It's fine just the way it is. Caught fish on it yet?
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Post by DaveSiejka on Jan 20, 2011 16:25:24 GMT -5
It looks pretty good. The materials you use and especially your skills and how they evolve with you as a tier are more important than your vice and tools. You look like you are on your way!! Try tying some pheasant tails, hairs ear, stonefly patterns and stuff like that. They work well and they are pretty easy to tie
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Post by Tony Medina on Jan 20, 2011 16:36:12 GMT -5
Ah fly recommendations for ya forgot about this part. I'll second what dave there said and add the following.
There is no one pattern that is really easier than another. All patterns are the same difficulty level once you have learned the techniques used behind tying them. I would stress that. Work on your technique and form. Different materials act differently. Learn how so.
If you are just starting to tie I can tell you how I started. It will work on both form repetition as well as creating functional flies that you will find yourself using.
Go to the WNY hatches section on the site. Start with the first hatch of the year and tie the flies Nick recommends for it in the sizes he recommends. Tie a dozen of each in each size.
Do this for the whole hatch chart list.
By the end you will have functional flies that you will actually use. You would have worked with several types of materials and have learned some of their personalities.
After that you will really be all set for the first year. From there you can explore other flies you may like to tie.
Vice time my friend. Get it in your life.
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Post by patgreen on Jan 20, 2011 16:54:40 GMT -5
Only thing I would add to it would be some sort of contrasting color to give it some further depth....Caught fish on it yet? The fisherman in me said the same thing about contrast...the biologist in me screamed that they are a white animal all the way through (except in certain lakes). The biologist won out, but I think I will tie some others with some contrasting. What other materials can I use for the shells and stuff on these patterns instead of deer hair? And to answer your other question- I haven't used it yet, but I'm hoping it brings some shrimp.
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Post by DaveSiejka on Jan 20, 2011 17:01:51 GMT -5
not only contrast, but different shades of the same color look well too. Since light hits a moving object at different angles the colors appear different. Just look at your own hand in the light and move it around. Same concept for a fly in the water. Just something to think about next time u are at the vice
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Post by david marrocco on Jan 20, 2011 17:24:17 GMT -5
I to am a tier that has started only a year ago and I agree that the materials are more important the tools. But the one thing that anyone cant get too much of is practice. ive seen guys tying on $10 vises that make spectacular looking flies . Sometimes it can get expensive but oofs is pretty good priced compared to anywhere else ive been and quality of materials is awesome if you can make it in there, and the more you tie the better you will get. keep at it fly looks pretty good.
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Post by david marrocco on Jan 20, 2011 17:29:29 GMT -5
i also like to use scud shell nick sells some and and sometimes i use the celophane that they put over fundraising baskets and flowers. I cut it in small strips and use markers or white out to color i want it.
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Post by Michael Hartman on Jan 20, 2011 17:42:11 GMT -5
Nice man, Im not sure how new you are to tying.. But tie up woolly buggers.. theres so many color combos it will make your head spin. Almost 3/4 of my fish this season have come from a brown and white size 8 bugger. Its an all around pattern, many types of fish will eat it. It imitates any thing really. And theres a trillion different ways you can fish it. Swing it, bobber it, bottom bounce it, strip it, dead drift it, twitch it... etc.
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Post by fishon on Jan 20, 2011 18:05:29 GMT -5
My suggestion, lose the tail and it could be a useful scud pattern if you take the underbody to the bend. I think that it looks good as it is though. Keep it up, like the others have said, start simple, master a couple different patterns and everything will start to fall into place. The best advice I can give you is to post pics and ask questions. Someone will have an answer for you.
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