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Post by Paul K Gerlach on Jan 30, 2012 17:49:53 GMT -5
I have been a follower, and admirer of this forum for some time. Went on my first steelhead trip to WNY tribs in Nov. I purchased a nice 7wt 10' 2-handed flyrod. I had difficulty casting with the regular salmon 7wt line. and figured that I would try, at least, switch line. I was advised against it because the rod was designed for a two handed cast, not as a switch rod... Can that possibly be true?  Thanks |
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Post by Nick Pionessa on Jan 30, 2012 18:01:15 GMT -5
welcome to the site. what may have been meant was that a regular 7wt line is not correct for a 7wt switch rod. typically they are two line sizes heavier than a sh of the same number. primarily just to be confusing it seems. it varies from company to company but that is a good general rule. find the grain window for the rod and choose a line that fits that and the type of taper you want. fine to blunt. check for your rod here. see what the grain window is and match it up. www.rioproducts.com/recommended.html |
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Post by Paul K Gerlach on Jan 30, 2012 19:23:32 GMT -5
Thanks. The person I spoke to seemed a bit ignorant. He indicated to me that the rod I purchased was designed for one-handed casting, I explained that the rod was two handed. He indicated that the stress of switch casting could break the rod. Now I used it in WNY in Nov. Caught a bunch of 8-12lb steelhead. The rod was perfect... performed better than my shoulders, which ached for a week... (well worth it).
I checked the Rio site... my rod was not there.
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jan 30, 2012 23:01:09 GMT -5
sounds to me like you have a single hand rod with a lower handle added. i have one myself in 7wt.
does it cast the 7wt wf-f long belly (steel/salmon taper) well over head?
spey casting prefers more grains than over head...........even the old wf/dt rated rods went one up for dt............example 7/8 = 7 wf - 8dt .
what rod or blank (custom) is it exactly ? do you want to primarily spey cast & swing, indicator nymph, both?
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Post by Paul K Gerlach on Jan 31, 2012 9:26:41 GMT -5
The rod is an Orvis Access, 2-handed, 10', 7wt. Overhead casting is fine. All in all, the rod is great. And yes, I wanted to be able to spey cast and swing.
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jan 31, 2012 10:01:58 GMT -5
Thanks,
One last ?
Are you sure thats not an 11' rod rather than a " 10' " as you listed.
Bet it's 11'.
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Post by Paul K Gerlach on Jan 31, 2012 10:26:17 GMT -5
It's a 10 footer. Apparently a handful of these rods were made specifically for steelhead fishing. Oh, and for the drift, it is fantastic. The rod is not found in any catalog or on the web.
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Post by Jake Kwapiszeski on Jan 31, 2012 11:08:54 GMT -5
orvis regularly releases 10 foot rods in 6 to 8 weight to cater to steelhead fishermen. I have a 10' trident that i like using on large rivers and kings. It has an extended fighting butt, but it is not a switch rod. The forward grip is too short for comfortable positioning while spey casting, and the action too slow to effectively load the rod....but just because it isn't a "spey" or "switch" rod doesn't mean you cant swing with it. Try demo-ing different weight double tapers and shooting heads with your rod to dial in on a good set-up for single-handed spey casting.
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jan 31, 2012 11:15:03 GMT -5
Ahhhh.........you got me. I am familar w) the new 11' Access switch blank/rod which is definately - two hand / switch rated, fast'ish taper and recovery.......action similar to a T&T 1107.
Not surprised that some Lake Erie and/or Great Lakes guys pushed for a 10'er switch.........personally think it's smart.....for smaller waters.
Don't know sir...........stumped.
Whats the power fighting fish feel like compared to a 10' single hander? Did it feel more like a 9 1/2' - 10' 7wt or 8wt?
When you cast the long belly WF-F Steel/Salmon taper over head did it feel a little light..........even being a long belly? Was it not loading well when you roll cast it? Lacking?
I bet a cup of coffee it's switch/compact spey two hand rated but, will wait for your next reply to conclude and rec.
Oh one last important question - What creeks rivers do you mostly fish with it........or want to? Erie tribs NY-Ohio? Other? Do you have a spey rod besides also?
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jan 31, 2012 11:27:07 GMT -5
orvis regularly releases 10 foot rods in 6 to 8 weight to cater to steelhead fishermen. I have a 10' trident that i like using on large rivers and kings. It has an extended fighting butt, but it is not a switch rod. The forward grip is too short for comfortable positioning while spey casting, and the action too slow to effectively load the rod....but just because it isn't a "spey" or "switch" rod doesn't mean you cant swing with it. Try demo-ing different weight double tapers and shooting heads with your rod to dial in on a good set-up for single-handed spey casting. yea........fair and enough but, i am not convinced it's not two hand / grain rated yet sir. the 11' same series are. the series you noted different. i could EASILY see, Erie/Great Lakes shops,staffers pushing for some 10'er's.......easily .........and there are a few orvis guides  and shops with enough clout regionally to get their request. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- pkgHow long is the upper handle on the 10'Access? Same as a single hander full wells grip or longer? |
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and shops with enough clout regionally to get their request.