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Post by casey beattie on Mar 27, 2012 18:44:22 GMT -5
so what do you guys think. i caught a steelhead on a fly similar to this in the fall but i made some changes and tied it on a waddington shank instead of a solid hook. Attachments:
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Post by framerman on Mar 28, 2012 9:06:33 GMT -5
Looks really nice good luck
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Post by DaveSiejka on Mar 28, 2012 12:16:16 GMT -5
Looks good man! Love the color combo ....
On the next one, you may want to tie your stinger hook a bit longer. With all that material hanging off the back, you may end up getting sots of short strikes.
Whats the overall length on her?
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Post by Frank Swarner on Mar 28, 2012 12:28:14 GMT -5
Looks good!! I agree with Dave about the hook placement.
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Post by casey beattie on Mar 28, 2012 16:57:36 GMT -5
hey thanks guys  it about 3 inches long and the hook is a bit further back, but i tied it on with flyline backing so its not hanging stright back i figured it would hang better on the swing. So the hook is supposed to be at the very end of the material? |
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Post by DaveSiejka on Mar 29, 2012 7:47:03 GMT -5
Yes .... or at least close to the end of the material
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Post by SteveKowalski on Mar 29, 2012 10:47:31 GMT -5
first: really cool fly, love the color combo You might want to put the eyes on the underside of the shank - if it matters what the top is. 2nd.: I would call it more of a stinger leech, skagit minnow intruder style (in my study of them, anyway) has a distinct rear of the shank hackle, with a ball of something to hold it out full as well as a forward hackle behind the eyes. check this out speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=48199&highlight=intruderAND cutting and pasting from another "rules for tying intruder" thread on another site Dec Hogan says: No, there is not a set recipe to tie an Intruder. There never was. It has ALWAYS been a style -- since day one. There is, however, a specific style that DOES NOT include "just anything big" or "if it is tied with a trailer," or "on a tube or shank," etc. etc. etc. that a fly must adhere to in order for it to be classified as Intruder Style. Ed Ward says: The original intent of the Intruder was to tie a large profile fly, SUGGESTIVE of life via movement and transluscence. At the time that the concept was originated, existing large profile flies (mainly GP types and Marabous), though effective, didn't quite incorporate all of these components into one - the GP types had the profile but lacked movement and transluscence, while the Marabous had movement, but lacked volume when subjected to current. The main concept of the Intruder was that predatory response could be better elicited by mimicking "life" in a general manner PRIMARILY through movement, rather than just imitation through "shape" (GP = prawn/shrimp silhouette). And, that this movement would be more effective if created through "engineering" of material placement, rather than material characteristics alone (softness of marabou = good movement, but poor "volume"). Thus, a properly engineered Intruder produces a shape and movement in the water that is easily suggestive of a prawn or squid or baitfish, all at the same time, while also being more castable in relation to it's size because those effects were created through "engineering" rather than just globbing increasing bunches of material together to achieve size. The first versions of Intruders were in fact tied on large single hooks (partridge M's and N's), and it was only after experiencing unacceptable hooking injuries on fish with these types of hooks that the shank approach was devised. |
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Post by fishtech on Mar 29, 2012 11:35:50 GMT -5
Blue & black color is great combo!  I second what Steve said: put the lead-eyes on the underside of hook shank. To attach your stinger hook try "Beadalon" .018 inch nylon coated beading wire available at craft stores. |
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Post by casey beattie on Mar 29, 2012 17:31:50 GMT -5
i never knew that, about what is classified as an intruder. that's pretty cool  it seems i have much to learn haha. i did put a healthy clump of arctic fox tail at the rear of the shank, maybe on the next one I'll try the deer hair instead. thanks for the comments fellas. hopefully tomorrow or Saturday I'll be able to do some testing with this one! |
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Post by JoeSperanza on Sept 17, 2012 19:07:09 GMT -5
Spiderwire or PowerPro works great too, especially for pike. Waddington shanks are fun to play with, I know a certain member on here who uses cotter pins and they are killer
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it about 3 inches long and the hook is a bit further back, but i tied it on with flyline backing so its not hanging stright back i figured it would hang better on the swing. So the hook is supposed to be at the very end of the material?
it seems i have much to learn haha. i did put a healthy clump of arctic fox tail at the rear of the shank, maybe on the next one I'll try the deer hair instead. thanks for the comments fellas. hopefully tomorrow or Saturday I'll be able to do some testing with this one! 