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Post by Chris C Crane on Nov 21, 2007 7:35:52 GMT -5
Rookie question...
The Gear I have been using the most 13 7/8 CND Expert with Delta Mid - 7/8 line.
So I am getting pretty good casting tight loops in my sweet zone 65-90 feet. The loops are lazor-like when casting only a tube or weighted fly on a 13 foot leader. However my casting goes to shit, as soon as I attached any length of sinking leader and it gets worse the more I try to muscle the casts.
Any thoughts or tips for casting weighted leaders. I can't believe that I can't locate the answer in Simon Gawesworth's book...
I plan on fishing the Grand (Ontario)this week which can be 200 feet wide with a few deep pools. Can I adjust my casting stroke to accomodate the weight or perhaps I need to change my line set-up?
On another note, I have been fishing with two handers for 3 months and I am seriously considering selling all of my other gear to be replaced with 2-handers.
Thanks,
Chris
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Post by Nick Pionessa on Nov 21, 2007 9:45:08 GMT -5
Chris,
the main difference is the taper of the front of the line. the delta you have now is designed to cast a mono leader with or without a weighted fly. right now your line has a front taper that floats and you are putting on an additional front taper that is heavy. you now have two front tapers, which obviously looses energy as it gets to the sinking part. for tips and even heavy poly leaders the front of the line should be cut off and a loop put on the blunt end and then the front taper is replaced by the sinking leader of choice. this is how the multi tip lines are designed. the front taper is interchangeable with different density tips to complete the taper. your existing line can be altered by cutting off about 12' of the front, putting on a loop and looping the cutt off tip so it can be replaced for use as a floater. after cutting back you now have a multi tip line, completed by the sink tip of choice. or you could drop another $139.99 for a multi tip version that comes with four tips, float, inter, sink 6 and sink 8. if you already have the tips you need, cutting back the existing line makes the most sense. if you look around on the Spey pages site you will see this is very standard practice for spey lines. you may have qualms about cutting a perfectly fine line, but it is a tool and needs to be the right one for the job and now that you have some experience you know the tool as is needs something to make it perform the way you want it to for the task at hand which is throwing sink tips. let me know if that doesn't make sense or if you have any other questions about altering the line.
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Post by Chris C Crane on Nov 21, 2007 10:29:55 GMT -5
Awwe crap this means I have an opportunity to buy more gear? ;D ;D
Sounds like a spare spool, line and backing are in my future!!
Crane
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Post by Chris C Crane on Nov 26, 2007 9:51:56 GMT -5
I was a little nervous cutting my line. After all is said and done, I think it worked. I was able to cast quite comfortably with the following set-up
Intermediate tip - 3' of t14
Leader - 10' of airflow fast sink tip
tippet - 3-5' 2x
However, of note I tried it on two different rods (Loop yellow and CND expert) and my CND required the least effort. I am really liking casting this rod. For anyone just getting into two handers consider the CND Expert as a great learning tool.
At some point in the future if/when I upgrade rods, I'll be looking to match the feel of my CND.
Crane
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Post by Chris Wilson on Nov 30, 2007 20:20:35 GMT -5
Sounds like you've made the change in tackle and that's worked for you. A few techniques to try when you find yourself fishing on the river and run into that situation again (without a cut line) is try and get a longer draw on the line prior to back cast/D loop formation. Meaning, lift higher and swing out wider into the river. Keep the back stroke flat as you can and keep the lift slow.
The higher lift will pull that sunk line more towards the surface before the cast is started. You could even lift "in" to the bank and then sweep "out" into the river and pull the loop out and around (assuming single spey).
I'd also recommend lifting your hands higher on the forward stroke to minimize line stick on the forward shot.
I fished sunk leaders this spring with my lightly tapered Carron's and spent the first half of the first morning adjusting.
-Chris
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