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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jun 23, 2012 19:05:28 GMT -5
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jun 24, 2012 12:30:56 GMT -5
Tied one on 2/0 last night. Will give it a try this evening. Note - have to watch the twist at the end if you give it a go. btw- the deceiver profile, with standard weed guard tie shed weeds pretty well for me if you take it slooooow, through the tick stuff. not as good as a bent back tied specifally to shed weeds but, pretty good over all. will see if this style improves any more or not. i like it on paper,concept and by feel so far. the video is correct and it does seem to splay well for takes.
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Post by Justin Damude on Jun 24, 2012 16:02:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the update I was tossing and turning last wondering if you tied one.
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jun 24, 2012 22:28:28 GMT -5
N.S.N. - you won't likely need a weed guard on your yarn flies.......so not need to fret.
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jun 25, 2012 10:20:14 GMT -5
For those interested of non smart ass reply. I fished that style weed guard last evening and liked it, enough to add on others future. If you have used this style please share your thoughts.........thanks.
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Post by Michael Hartman on Jun 25, 2012 10:45:22 GMT -5
Double weed guards work nice on deer hair frogs. Especially ones your throwing into really thick weeds.. nice fly by the way.
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Post by SteveKowalski on Jun 25, 2012 11:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jun 25, 2012 15:37:52 GMT -5
Thanks Mikey & Steve for your thoughts.
Steve, I usually run them down the bend further also but, tried per spec on the video clip I posted. I liked the way in the vid. clip they splayed out for a take - demo and thought the higher " 1/3" down set for guard, may have aided that...........not sure really. I have never used looped style doubles either prior......so...beats me. I tied some double stiff, non looped from the eye only, years ago.......either wire or hard mono.....can't remember which?... but did not care for and just always used the standard looped single sense.
Probably right Steve on a fly that big the "set" may not matter as compared to bass bugs.
I had not seen those bugs of Charlie's, wow they sure are nice.
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Post by Justin Damude on Jun 25, 2012 20:25:59 GMT -5
do weed guards actually work? if the fly is sub surface wouldn't the weeds just wrap around the eye or tippet? like i said i have no experiences with them
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Post by B.Ingersoll on Jun 26, 2012 7:19:31 GMT -5
do weed guards actually work? if the fly is sub surface wouldn't the weeds just wrap around the eye or tippet? like i said i have no experiences with them Justin, Yes, they definitely help. What typically attaches to the eye, leader knot or other are the floating slim type weeds and nothing can do anything about them. For all others weeds typically found in lakes,slow river sections,etc. along with grasses on river bars, they help considerably. Along with the weed guard a slow, easy retrieve - when you first feels weeds, rather than a jerk strip is needed. The con for me anyways, is when fishing Bass, and I get some misses , I get suspisous of the weed guard. Whether this is validated concern, or an excuse for misses , I really don't know. I think g.i. steve made a good point about takes on larger flies (above) and larger fish and it probably don't matter with. With a little special attention paid to the tie. A "bent back": fly is my most weedless tie personally. I add a bit stiffer, shorter buck tail to what is the final over wing and coat the lower to stiffen up. The hook point kicks up to about 2 o'clock which helps also. Done properly it's also great for over timber. With this fly and a knotless leader you can throw into the heaviest weeds and sloooowly retrieve through. Always exceptions but guards do help imo
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